Q: Can I respond more?
John: As a deeper level opens, you can respond as that level. Such a response is what is required for you to really come into that level. You don’t really know the level until you’re responding as that level.
Q: So I have to completely go into that level?
Q: And be that level?
John: By responding as that level.
Q: And then that changes whatever it changes?
John: Yes. You moving as a deeper level will alter your self. When you follow-through, moving as a deeper level, you begin a reconfiguration of your self that doesn’t stop until your self is like that level, that deeper level that you respond to; that you respond to being as and moving as.
Q: The…the experience of it is quite strong now, but I…I as….I imagine that that’s not necessarily gonna…going to stay and so I’m also really…been aware of what I’m knowing in it, but in…in the responding as that level, that is different, isn’t it?
Q: And not having filters or boundaries in it is letting it move and change whatever needs to change?
John: It means that any consultation with your self is of no value to you. It has no voice for you.
John: Whatever you think and feel in your self is of no consideration when you respond as a deeper level. The way of having movement comes exclusively from the level, within, that you respond to. You come to that by relating only to that level. You won’t be looking back to familiarity to check how you’re doing or to make sure that all is safe.
A deeper level within is a form, a level of pure you. Your movement as that requires only you. If you include your self in that movement, you won’t move as a deeper level; you’ll move as your self. You need to be able to move exclusively as a deeper level for you to be that level in the midst of your self. You can’t be that level in the midst of your self if you’re not first being that level without your self, without any use of your self.
Q: So that’s pure response? There’s no consultation?
John: Yes. In the same way, the use of your person doesn’t help you be in your self. The use of your self doesn’t help you be in your heart, and the use of your self will certainly not help you be levels, deeper than your own heart.
Q: So all of it comes from that level?
John: Movement that is of that level comes from that level. Then when you move as your self, you’re not separate from that deeper level. When you have relinquished your self to respond as a deeper level, you have really come into that level. You’ve made it your home. As you resume your self, your self, by you, will be steeped in that deeper level. Being your self won’t be quite the same.
Q: And we have to completely relinquish the self and move as that first?
John: For you to move as a deeper level, yes. You can be your self while being awakened to a deeper level, but you cannot be your self for you to move as that deeper level.
Q: There’s definitely a higher seeing that’s part of this.
Q: And there’s something about a higher seeing, but also really being in my feet.
John: It’s a different level of grounding. The grounding changes from being grounded in your self to being grounded in your heart to being grounded in knowing. Each level deeper seems to be less, but you know it is more.
Q: So it’s like having my own feet in knowing?
John: With knowing being safe. You act, you move, by what you know. It puts you into a completely different level of action, a level of action that in your self you’re clueless about. When you awaken to a deeper level, you’re not clueless — you know.
Q: And then it’s only that knowing, you said, that we move by and act by?
John: Yes, and that takes you completely past your self.
Q: You said something about safe, but I didn’t quite get that.
John: Familiarity is not safe. Familiarity is safe where you know it’s safe. Knowing is safe within your self and familiarity, but also beyond your self and beyond familiarity.
Q: So if we’re grounded in knowing, then we might be moving in what’s familiar in the self, but also in what’s not familiar in the self?
Q: It’s just about the knowing?
John: Within familiarity and beyond it.
Q: So it might be that there’s no seeing or no experience?
John: Enough dialogue about it. The deeper levels are active. Come in.